выступление Остина и Милли после встречи в рамштайнеОстин толкнул длинную речь, что все свободные нации поддерживают Украину в борьбе против рашистского империализма.
I'm especially grateful that we got to hear again today from my good friends, Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine's minister of defense, and Lieutenant General Moisyuk, Ukraine's deputy chief of defense. It's deeply meaningful to have them here with us in person as Ukraine begins its counteroffensive in the south, and I want to thank my brave Ukrainian colleagues for sharing their insights from the battlefield.
Now, Ukraine -- Ukraine's defenders have been putting the military aid that we've all been sending them to immediate and effective use, and just look at how the Ukrainian forces have been using high-end capabilities like HIMARS and M270 rocket systems in their broader push to reclaim Ukraine's sovereignty -- or Ukraine's sovereign territory.
Особая благодарность нашим друзьям Резникову и Мойсюку, которые приехали сегодня к нам, когда в Украине началось контрнаступление, рассказали нам про него.
Украинские защитники пользуются нашей военной помощью на все сто - смотрите, как им пригодились хаймарсы и M270.
We had some good conversations today about Ukraine's self-defense priorities. Right now, Ukraine urgently needs more artillery systems and ammunition. It also needs air defense and coastal defense and other critical capabilities. The United States has stepped up to meet those needs, and I'm very glad that so many of our allies and partners have, as well
мы сегодня хорошо поговорили про приоритеты Украины. Прямо сейчас им нужно больше артиллерии и снарядов. Ещё противовоздушную оборону, береговую оборону и прочее. США собирается помочь, и рад сообщить, что другие страны тоже.
I also want to thank our eastern flank allies, namely, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, for reinvigorating their industrial bases to meet Ukraine's self-defense needs. Their round-the-clock efforts to manufacture new armaments are key to Ukraine's success. And we're going to move even faster and push even harder.
спасибо нашим сюзникам на востоке, Польше, Чехии и Словакии, которые разворачивают индустриальные базы, чтобы помочь нуждам Украины. Круглосуточное производство нового оружия - то что нужно для успеха Украины.
Ukraine is fighting for its life. It's fighting for its sovereign territory and its democracy and its freedom. But the stakes reach far beyond the front lines. They reach us all. But members of this contact group aren't just helping defend Ukraine; they're helping to defend the rules-based international order that emerged after the horrors of the Second World War.
Украина борется за свою жизнь. За свою демократию и свободу. Но не только. Мы не только помогаем Украине защититься, мы помогаем защитить мировой порядок, который сложился после ужасов второй мировой.
Милли:
At the beginning of this month, on or about the 1st of September, Ukraine launched an offensive in order to seize the operational and strategic initiative. That offensive is ongoing. That offensive is in its early stages and it's too early to give a full assessment, but to date, Ukraine is effectively using their fires to shape the ground maneuver as they continue their offensive in the south. And what we're talking about is the area just north of the Dnipro River, in the vicinity of Kherson. And I'll be happy to answer any specific questions anybody may have on that when we get to the Q&A.
в начале этого месяца Украина начала наступление, чтобы перехватить инициативу. Это наступление продолжается. Пока на ранних стадиях и рано делать полную оценку, но пока Украина эффективно использует обстрелы, чтобы оформить манёвры. Это около Херсона. Могу ответить на доп. вопросы.
The discussions from today's meetings were not just about support to the current fight but equally important is the longer term. As of today, as you know, we, the United States, have transferred 16 HIMARS to Ukraine with thousands of GMLR rounds, hundreds of thousands of artillery 155 ammunition, along with 126 M777 artillery tubes, thousands of anti-tank weapons, thousands of anti-aircraft weapons.
HARM missiles have been transferred to the Ukrainians to help them out -- in addition to that, small arms and a lot of non-lethal equipment.
Мы обсуждали поддержку не только в текущих боях, но и долгосрочную. Вы знаете, США уже поставили 16 хаймарсов, тысячи GMLR снарядов, сотни тысяч 155 снарядов, ...
HARM ракеты тоже поставили.
We are seeing real and measurable gains from Ukraine in the use of these systems. For example, the Ukrainians have struck over 400 targets with the HIMARS and they've had devastating effect.
Мы видим, что украинцам это всё очень пригождается. Например, хаймарсами они поразили уже больше 400 целей, рашисты в ужасе.
The war is not over. Russia's a big country. They have very serious ambitions with respect to Ukraine. So sustainment of Ukraine to continue their fight for their survival will be necessary. And moving forward, I know that the Secretary and all of the members of the contact group are going to work together in the future with our counterparts to continue to provide Ukraine with what they need to continue their quest for their freedom.
Война ещё не кончилась. Раша большая. И у неё серьёзные цели насчёт Украины. Так что необходимо продлолжать поддерживать Украину. Я знаю, что министр и другие члены контактной группы собираются продолжать работать вместе на поддержку Украины в её борьбе за свободу.
Q: Mr. Secretary, your administration has indicated that they will go back to Congress for additional funding for Ukraine's war needs, and some lawmakers have already expressed skepticism about their willingness to -- to pass additional funding.
Can you explain to the American taxpayers why did -- why Congress should approve additional funding for military aid to Ukraine, given that the domestic economy is still in a precarious situation?
And -- and for the chairman, you mentioned the counteroffensive. Would you describe the progress the Ukrainians have made in the south as -- as being modest, as being sort of slower-than-expected? How would you describe it? And are you concerned that now that they have started a counteroffensive partially in the east as well, that they might be sort of overstretched in their capabilities?
SEC. AUSTIN: Well, thanks, Idrees. As you know, what we've seen in terms of support from Congress to this point has been broad bipartisan support, and based upon the interest and the -- and the -- and the support that we've seen, I fully expect that we'll continue to receive broad bipartisan support because, you know, our leaders recognize how important this is, how important it is that -- that we continue to help Ukraine have the ability to protect its sovereign territory. So clearly, you know, as we -- as we ask for resources, there's always an expectation that we are able to lay out the -- the rationale for those -- for those requests, and we'll -- we'll certainly do that.
But I -- what I would say is that what we've seen from the Ukrainians thus far -- and the chairman highlighted this in -- in a very straightforward way -- the Ukrainians have put to use, good use, the equipment that we've provided them, and we see those effects on the battlefield as we speak. HIMARS are -- are one example, but there are other examples, as well. The Ukrainians have inflicted significant damage to the Russians' supplies lines and -- and ammunition supply points and command-and-control nodes as they as they continue to shape the battlefield to be able to maneuver to retake some of their sovereign territory. So I expect that we'll continue to see support, but I fully appreciate the fact that there will be an expectation that we lay out the rationale for that.
- вы говорите, что пойдёте в конгресс просить ещё денег для Украины, а некоторые конгрессмены уже выразили скептицизм, что это прокатит.
Вы можете об'яснить американским налогоплательщикам, почему конгресс выделяет ещё денег Украине, когда у самих экономика вжопе?
И ещё про контрнаступление вопрос - как вы оцениваете прогресс на юге? скромный? медленнее, чем ожидалось? Как? Вы не переживаете, что они одновременно начали наступать на востоке, и может они надорвутся?
Остин: Насчёт поддержки конгресса, до сих пор мы видели широкую двухпартийную поддержку, и я пока не вижу перемен в этом смысле, потому что наши лидеры признают, как это важно поддерживать Украину. Конечно, если нас спросят, мы обоснуем, куда нужны эти мильёны.
Но что мы видим от украинцев - им явно идёт на пользу всё это оборудование, мы прям своими глазами видим их успехи. Посмотрите хотя бы на хаймарсы. Украинцы здорово проредили рашистские запасы и штабы. Так что я думаю, поддержка в конгрессе будет, но я найду слова об'яснить есличо.
GEN. MILLEY: So it is the question of progress in the south. Again, as I said in my opening remarks, I think it's a bit early to make a full and wholesome assessment. What the Ukrainians are doing is a very deliberate offensive attack. They are setting conditions with fires in order to set conditions for ground maneuver to accomplish the objectives that they set out.
I don't want to go over specific axises of advance or specific objectives at this point. I think that's too early. But I would say that -- I would characterize it as a very deliberate offensive operation that is calibrated to set conditions, and then seize their objectives, and -- and we think at this point that their progress -- you -- you mentioned the word "modest" or "moderate". Their -- their progress is steady, and it's deliberate.
Secondly is overstretch. No, I don't. There are -- this battlefield, you know, from -- from Kharkiv all the way down to Kherson is a significant front-line trace, if you will. It's about 2,500 kilometers of -- of border that Ukraine has to protect, and about 1,300 are -- are engaged in act -- 1,300 kilometers are engaged in, you know, active combat one way or another, and that's a little bit less than that as you go from Kharkiv down to Kherson.
So there's fighting all along that front, and one of the areas you mentioned, the counteroffensive up in Kharkiv that -- that is being launched also by Ukraine, there's been fighting back and forth in and around Kharkiv for the entire time, but I don't think they are particularly overstretched, per se. But there is fighting both offense and defense from -- all the way from Kharkiv all the way down to Kherson. Right now, the intensity of the fighting is occurring up in Kharkiv. There's significant fighting down around Bakhmut, and then, of course, the offensive down in Kherson. So they're continuing the fight. They've got the forces to do it, and we'll see how this plays out.
Милли: Насчёт прогресса на юге. Рановато оценивать. Украинцы осуществляют запланированные атаки. Сначала подготавливают условия - обстрелами, потом маневры на земле.
Не хочу вдаваться в подробности. Но я бы охарактеризовал как очень спланированное наступление. В общем, прогресс можно охарактеризовать как... вы упоминали "скромный" или "умеренный". Прогресс устойчивый и спланированный.
Насчёт "надорвутся". Нет, не думаю. Они давно уже воюют по всей линии фронта, от Харькова до Херсона. Да, это много километров. И там везде бои. Около Харькова бои с продвижениями туда-сюда уже тоже давно идут, всё это время, но никто не надорвался. Сейчас интенсивные бои около Харькова. Около Бахмута тоже. И наступление на Херсон. У них есть силы на это, посмотрим, что выйдет.
